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Labour 'rising star' Rebecca Long-Bailey
#31
(05-19-2017, 10:45 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-18-2017, 08:47 PM)Arti Wrote: Theresa May campaigned strenuously to Remain just last year.  Look at her now.  I call her judgement in to question.  Recent enough?

Define "strenuously"?

That's the best laugh I've had all day. She did the thick end of fuck all knowing that this opportunity might present itself, just like the guy I'm campaigning for tomorrow in Halesowen and the guy I'm campaigning for in West Brom West on Sunday.

Tell me about it, I'm still kicking myself for not backing her as next PM.
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#32
(05-19-2017, 10:58 AM)Zoltanger Wrote: Tell me about it, I'm still kicking myself for not backing her as next PM.

Did you lay Marine Le Pen like I suggested?

This time round I'm going "No Seats for UKIP" and laying Steptoe, obviously.
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#33
(05-19-2017, 11:09 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 10:58 AM)Zoltanger Wrote: Tell me about it, I'm still kicking myself for not backing her as next PM.

Did you lay Marine Le Pen like I suggested?

This time round I'm going "No Seats for UKIP" and laying Steptoe, obviously.

Nah I don't punt much, just now and then and May should have been one of those nows as it was so obvious what she was doing. What range do you reckon for the Tory majority?
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#34
(05-18-2017, 08:47 PM)Arti Wrote: Theresa May campaigned strenuously to Remain just last year.  Look at her now.  I call her judgement in to question.  Recent enough?

It's irrelevant as to her character. She felt we should remain but she believes the result should be implemented, as we were promised. 

It doesn't mean any more that that. Not really anywhere near the same moral level as what Corbyn's done.

She also didn't campaign strenuously, so that's more BS. She appeared with a 'Stronger In' sign on a few occasions.

As for Corbyn's character, do a Google for Ruth Dudley-Edwards's Belfast Times article on him. And you are STILL voting for him.
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#35
(05-19-2017, 11:09 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 10:58 AM)Zoltanger Wrote: Tell me about it, I'm still kicking myself for not backing her as next PM.

Did you lay Marine Le Pen like I suggested?

This time round I'm going "No Seats for UKIP" and laying Steptoe, obviously.
1.04? You got any more value lumps  Big Grin

(05-19-2017, 08:22 PM)Mandown_Pilt Wrote:
(05-18-2017, 08:47 PM)Arti Wrote: Theresa May campaigned strenuously to Remain just last year.  Look at her now.  I call her judgement in to question.  Recent enough?

It's irrelevant as to her character. She felt we should remain but she believes the result should be implemented, as we were promised. 

It doesn't mean any more that that. Not really anywhere near the same moral level as what Corbyn's done.

She also didn't campaign strenuously, so that's more BS. She appeared with a 'Stronger In' sign on a few occasions.

As for Corbyn's character, do a Google for Ruth Dudley-Edwards's Belfast Times article on him. And you are STILL voting for him.
"sometimes alongside his comrade the Marxist Leninist Trotskyite John McDonnell"

Arf.

You gonna cite The Beano as your next source MDP? 

Even by your usual standards, that one is a bit beyond junk.
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#36
Isn't that Mental Mickey's description of 'A Bunch of Wallies' on OFAH?
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#37
(05-19-2017, 08:46 PM)Heath Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 11:09 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 10:58 AM)Zoltanger Wrote: Tell me about it, I'm still kicking myself for not backing her as next PM.

Did you lay Marine Le Pen like I suggested?

This time round I'm going "No Seats for UKIP" and laying Steptoe, obviously.
1.04? You got any more value lumps  Big Grin

(05-19-2017, 08:22 PM)Mandown_Pilt Wrote:
(05-18-2017, 08:47 PM)Arti Wrote: Theresa May campaigned strenuously to Remain just last year.  Look at her now.  I call her judgement in to question.  Recent enough?

It's irrelevant as to her character. She felt we should remain but she believes the result should be implemented, as we were promised. 

It doesn't mean any more that that. Not really anywhere near the same moral level as what Corbyn's done.

She also didn't campaign strenuously, so that's more BS. She appeared with a 'Stronger In' sign on a few occasions.

As for Corbyn's character, do a Google for Ruth Dudley-Edwards's Belfast Times article on him. And you are STILL voting for him.
"sometimes alongside his comrade the Marxist Leninist Trotskyite John McDonnell"

Arf.

You gonna cite The Beano as your next source MDP? 

Even by your usual standards, that one is a bit beyond junk.

The last resort of the defeated, attack the writer, not the writing. RDE is a respected, Cambridge-educated journalist. Tackle her arguments as 'Arf' doesn't really cut it as a refutation. Nor does merely calling it 'junk'. To attempt to do so, so weakly, perhaps speaks volumes about whether or not you are able to in the face of overwhelming evidence to support RDE's arguments.

More and more comes out every few days about Corbyn and the IRA. 

McDonnell himself as said he is a Marxist and has spoken in praise of Lenin & Trotsky as his biggest influences. Don't be an ignoramus. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/...ences-2006

Ironic that you mention comics, and what IS with 'Arf'? Are you a child of the 1960s, copying Colonel Blink out of the Beezer?

Even judging by your usual standards, this is junk. 

This has resurfaced the past few days: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...42683.html

Why couldn't he just answer yes or no?

This has also been doing the rounds on Facebook:

"The editorial board of a hard-Left magazine, of which Mr Corbyn was a member, wrote an article praising the Brighton bombing. In its article on the IRA attack, which almost wiped out Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet, the editorial board of London Labour Briefing said the atrocity showed that “the British only sit up and take notice [of Ireland] when they are bombed into it.”
According to an authoritative parliamentary reference work, Mr Corbyn was general secretary of the editorial board. He wrote the front-page story in the same issue of Briefing.
The same edition of Briefing, for December 1984, carried a reader’s letter praising the “audacity” of the IRA attack and stating: “What do you call four dead Tories? A start.”
It mocked Norman, now Lord, Tebbit, the trade secretary who was dug out of the rubble of the Grand Hotel, saying: “Try riding your bike now, Norman.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics...links.html

Pretty contemptible stuff, no?

And, now, we have this from Diane Abbott: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/elect...-rp79dvvmk

This woman wants to be our Home Secretary. Just what are their views about the State, now? Have they evolved, at all? How far?

And people like you will STILL vote for them, despite all this, despite the fact that the West Brom constutiencies and Sandwell borough never get any better and are still some of the poorest in the country, just as they were when Labour was in power.

You keep voting for more of the same.

You still haven't answered: which way did you vote in the referendum? Did you, as I suggested, vote Remain but now too embarrassed to admit it, because it makes you look stupid when you threw a tantrum when I made that assumption?

Please have the fortitude to answer.

And back to the original topic: Long-Bailey is hopeless. The Labour front bench must be the thickest in history. Long-Bailey, Rayner, Corbyn. Not a brain between them.
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#38
(05-19-2017, 08:46 PM)Heath Wrote: 1.04? You got any more value lumps  Big Grin


1.09 on Smarkets
Laying Corbyn as next PM is like printing money
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#39
(05-21-2017, 12:18 PM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 08:46 PM)Heath Wrote: 1.04? You got any more value lumps  Big Grin


1.09 on Smarkets
Laying Corbyn as next PM is like printing money
I'd say it's the right price.

(05-21-2017, 08:39 AM)Mandown_Pilt Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 08:46 PM)Heath Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 11:09 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 10:58 AM)Zoltanger Wrote: Tell me about it, I'm still kicking myself for not backing her as next PM.

Did you lay Marine Le Pen like I suggested?

This time round I'm going "No Seats for UKIP" and laying Steptoe, obviously.
1.04? You got any more value lumps  Big Grin

(05-19-2017, 08:22 PM)Mandown_Pilt Wrote:
(05-18-2017, 08:47 PM)Arti Wrote: Theresa May campaigned strenuously to Remain just last year.  Look at her now.  I call her judgement in to question.  Recent enough?

It's irrelevant as to her character. She felt we should remain but she believes the result should be implemented, as we were promised. 

It doesn't mean any more that that. Not really anywhere near the same moral level as what Corbyn's done.

She also didn't campaign strenuously, so that's more BS. She appeared with a 'Stronger In' sign on a few occasions.

As for Corbyn's character, do a Google for Ruth Dudley-Edwards's Belfast Times article on him. And you are STILL voting for him.
"sometimes alongside his comrade the Marxist Leninist Trotskyite John McDonnell"

Arf.

You gonna cite The Beano as your next source MDP? 

Even by your usual standards, that one is a bit beyond junk.

The last resort of the defeated, attack the writer, not the writing. RDE is a respected, Cambridge-educated journalist. Tackle her arguments as 'Arf' doesn't really cut it as a refutation. Nor does merely calling it 'junk'. To attempt to do so, so weakly, perhaps speaks volumes about whether or not you are able to in the face of overwhelming evidence to support RDE's arguments.

More and more comes out every few days about Corbyn and the IRA. 

McDonnell himself as said he is a Marxist and has spoken in praise of Lenin & Trotsky as his biggest influences. Don't be an ignoramus. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/...ences-2006

Ironic that you mention comics, and what IS with 'Arf'? Are you a child of the 1960s, copying Colonel Blink out of the Beezer?

Even judging by your usual standards, this is junk. 

This has resurfaced the past few days: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...42683.html

Why couldn't he just answer yes or no?

This has also been doing the rounds on Facebook:

"The editorial board of a hard-Left magazine, of which Mr Corbyn was a member, wrote an article praising the Brighton bombing. In its article on the IRA attack, which almost wiped out Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet, the editorial board of London Labour Briefing said the atrocity showed that “the British only sit up and take notice [of Ireland] when they are bombed into it.”
According to an authoritative parliamentary reference work, Mr Corbyn was general secretary of the editorial board. He wrote the front-page story in the same issue of Briefing.
The same edition of Briefing, for December 1984, carried a reader’s letter praising the “audacity” of the IRA attack and stating: “What do you call four dead Tories? A start.”
It mocked Norman, now Lord, Tebbit, the trade secretary who was dug out of the rubble of the Grand Hotel, saying: “Try riding your bike now, Norman.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics...links.html

Pretty contemptible stuff, no?

And, now, we have this from Diane Abbott: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/elect...-rp79dvvmk

This woman wants to be our Home Secretary. Just what are their views about the State, now? Have they evolved, at all? How far?

And people like you will STILL vote for them, despite all this, despite the fact that the West Brom constutiencies and Sandwell borough never get any better and are still some of the poorest in the country, just as they were when Labour was in power.

You keep voting for more of the same.

You still haven't answered: which way did you vote in the referendum? Did you, as I suggested, vote Remain but now too embarrassed to admit it, because it makes you look stupid when you threw a tantrum when I made that assumption?

Please have the fortitude to answer.

And back to the original topic: Long-Bailey is hopeless. The Labour front bench must be the thickest in history. Long-Bailey, Rayner, Corbyn. Not a brain between them.
Corbyn has repeatedly said he condemns all bombing. Doesnt matter how many google links you dig out to support your one eyed views, thats a simple statement that i would imagine you can grasp.

I'm still waiting for you to explain why you wail like a baby when people say things about you that are unsubstantiated but feel happy to do the same. But i suspect it would involve a moment of self-reflection.

I admire Corbyn for being ahead of his time in recognising that talking was the solution. I also don't see global politics through the eyes of my national flag - I see it for what it is, multi-dimensional and with truth on all sides. When you enter adulthood, you may do the same.

(05-21-2017, 08:39 AM)Mandown_Pilt Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 08:46 PM)Heath Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 11:09 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 10:58 AM)Zoltanger Wrote: Tell me about it, I'm still kicking myself for not backing her as next PM.

Did you lay Marine Le Pen like I suggested?

This time round I'm going "No Seats for UKIP" and laying Steptoe, obviously.
1.04? You got any more value lumps  Big Grin

(05-19-2017, 08:22 PM)Mandown_Pilt Wrote:
(05-18-2017, 08:47 PM)Arti Wrote: Theresa May campaigned strenuously to Remain just last year.  Look at her now.  I call her judgement in to question.  Recent enough?

It's irrelevant as to her character. She felt we should remain but she believes the result should be implemented, as we were promised. 

It doesn't mean any more that that. Not really anywhere near the same moral level as what Corbyn's done.

She also didn't campaign strenuously, so that's more BS. She appeared with a 'Stronger In' sign on a few occasions.

As for Corbyn's character, do a Google for Ruth Dudley-Edwards's Belfast Times article on him. And you are STILL voting for him.
"sometimes alongside his comrade the Marxist Leninist Trotskyite John McDonnell"

Arf.

You gonna cite The Beano as your next source MDP? 

Even by your usual standards, that one is a bit beyond junk.

The last resort of the defeated, attack the writer, not the writing. RDE is a respected, Cambridge-educated journalist. Tackle her arguments as 'Arf' doesn't really cut it as a refutation. Nor does merely calling it 'junk'. To attempt to do so, so weakly, perhaps speaks volumes about whether or not you are able to in the face of overwhelming evidence to support RDE's arguments.

More and more comes out every few days about Corbyn and the IRA. 

McDonnell himself as said he is a Marxist and has spoken in praise of Lenin & Trotsky as his biggest influences. Don't be an ignoramus. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/...ences-2006

Ironic that you mention comics, and what IS with 'Arf'? Are you a child of the 1960s, copying Colonel Blink out of the Beezer?

Even judging by your usual standards, this is junk. 

This has resurfaced the past few days: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol...42683.html

Why couldn't he just answer yes or no?

This has also been doing the rounds on Facebook:

"The editorial board of a hard-Left magazine, of which Mr Corbyn was a member, wrote an article praising the Brighton bombing. In its article on the IRA attack, which almost wiped out Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet, the editorial board of London Labour Briefing said the atrocity showed that “the British only sit up and take notice [of Ireland] when they are bombed into it.”
According to an authoritative parliamentary reference work, Mr Corbyn was general secretary of the editorial board. He wrote the front-page story in the same issue of Briefing.
The same edition of Briefing, for December 1984, carried a reader’s letter praising the “audacity” of the IRA attack and stating: “What do you call four dead Tories? A start.”
It mocked Norman, now Lord, Tebbit, the trade secretary who was dug out of the rubble of the Grand Hotel, saying: “Try riding your bike now, Norman.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics...links.html

Pretty contemptible stuff, no?

And, now, we have this from Diane Abbott: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/elect...-rp79dvvmk

This woman wants to be our Home Secretary. Just what are their views about the State, now? Have they evolved, at all? How far?

And people like you will STILL vote for them, despite all this, despite the fact that the West Brom constutiencies and Sandwell borough never get any better and are still some of the poorest in the country, just as they were when Labour was in power.

You keep voting for more of the same.

You still haven't answered: which way did you vote in the referendum? Did you, as I suggested, vote Remain but now too embarrassed to admit it, because it makes you look stupid when you threw a tantrum when I made that assumption?

Please have the fortitude to answer.

And back to the original topic: Long-Bailey is hopeless. The Labour front bench must be the thickest in history. Long-Bailey, Rayner, Corbyn. Not a brain between them.
Corbyn has repeatedly said he condemns all bombing. Doesnt matter how many google links you dig out to support your one eyed views, thats an simple statement that i would imagine you can grasp.

I'm still waiting for you to explain why you wail like a baby when people say things about you that are unsubstantiated but feel happy to do the same. But i suspect it would involve a moment of self-reflection.

I admire Corbyn for being ahead of his time in recognising that talking was the solution. I also don't see global politics through the eyes of my national flag - I see it for what it is, multi-dimensional and with truth on all sides. When you enter adulthood, you may do the same.
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#40
(05-21-2017, 08:39 AM)Mandown_Pilt Wrote: More and more comes out every few days about Corbyn and the IRA. 





Funny how the Tories keep banging on about Corbyn and the IRA. It was Thatcher, Major and Blair who negotiated with the IRA
and did a deal with them.

Then you have this Tory - IRA councillor welcomed back to Tory bosom -

"In a dramatic u-turn, Maria Gatland has been accepted back into the Conservatives.

The Croham ward councillor had been suspended by the Tory party following revelations she was a member of the provisional IRA in the 1970s."
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