Next Tory leader/PM
#11
(05-30-2019, 07:47 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:15 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 07:59 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 07:50 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 07:32 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Hunt?


He's consistently said that he thinks no deal is a good and workable option over the last 2 years. He clearly fits in with the former, though with a tinge of malice rather than a complete lack of any intelligence like Leadsom, Raab and McVey.

Hasn’t he said recently that any leader campaigning for a no deal Brexit is committing political suicide?

He said that it was "political suicide" because Parliament won't let it happen and would trigger an election leading to the "first Marxist prime minister" being PM due to the risk of votes leaking to the Lib Dems, not because it's bad for the country.

So basically he is saying that the majority of the UK electorate do not want a no deal brexit, but he only sees this as a threat because it will mean the Tory's will lose power not because the electorate don't want it. Sign him up he sounds perfect to lead the country  Rolleyes

Let's be honest, what's best for the Tory party is the overriding motivation for all of them (bar Boris, of course).
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#12
(05-30-2019, 08:46 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 07:47 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:15 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 07:59 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 07:50 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote: He's consistently said that he thinks no deal is a good and workable option over the last 2 years. He clearly fits in with the former, though with a tinge of malice rather than a complete lack of any intelligence like Leadsom, Raab and McVey.

Hasn’t he said recently that any leader campaigning for a no deal Brexit is committing political suicide?

He said that it was "political suicide" because Parliament won't let it happen and would trigger an election leading to the "first Marxist prime minister" being PM due to the risk of votes leaking to the Lib Dems, not because it's bad for the country.

So basically he is saying that the majority of the UK electorate do not want a no deal brexit, but he only sees this as a threat because it will mean the Tory's will lose power not because the electorate don't want it. Sign him up he sounds perfect to lead the country  Rolleyes

Let's be honest, what's best for the Tory party is the overriding motivation for all of them (bar Boris, of course).

Going for no deal will kill them off long term, they're already toxic to a very sizeable proportion of young people to an extent that's never happened before. If they start losing business confidence to the Lib Dems then they're absolutely lost, you can't only represent pensioners.
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#13
(05-30-2019, 09:24 AM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 08:46 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 07:47 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:15 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 07:59 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Hasn’t he said recently that any leader campaigning for a no deal Brexit is committing political suicide?

He said that it was "political suicide" because Parliament won't let it happen and would trigger an election leading to the "first Marxist prime minister" being PM due to the risk of votes leaking to the Lib Dems, not because it's bad for the country.

So basically he is saying that the majority of the UK electorate do not want a no deal brexit, but he only sees this as a threat because it will mean the Tory's will lose power not because the electorate don't want it. Sign him up he sounds perfect to lead the country  Rolleyes

Let's be honest, what's best for the Tory party is the overriding motivation for all of them (bar Boris, of course).

Going for no deal will kill them off long term, they're already toxic to a very sizeable proportion of young people to an extent that's never happened before. If they start losing business confidence to the Lib Dems then they're absolutely lost, you can't only represent pensioners.
Brexit aside, in regards of a new leader; I would hope whoever gets the job at least follows the more traditional tory line of supporting the police force of our country in a better way than they have done in recent years! Maybe they can put as much effort into solving local burglaries and assaults on pensioners as they have done on the McCann case!!!
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#14
(06-05-2019, 07:56 PM)FenlandBoing Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 09:24 AM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 08:46 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 07:47 AM)baggy1 Wrote:
(05-29-2019, 08:15 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote: He said that it was "political suicide" because Parliament won't let it happen and would trigger an election leading to the "first Marxist prime minister" being PM due to the risk of votes leaking to the Lib Dems, not because it's bad for the country.

So basically he is saying that the majority of the UK electorate do not want a no deal brexit, but he only sees this as a threat because it will mean the Tory's will lose power not because the electorate don't want it. Sign him up he sounds perfect to lead the country  Rolleyes

Let's be honest, what's best for the Tory party is the overriding motivation for all of them (bar Boris, of course).

Going for no deal will kill them off long term, they're already toxic to a very sizeable proportion of young people to an extent that's never happened before. If they start losing business confidence to the Lib Dems then they're absolutely lost, you can't only represent pensioners.
Brexit aside, in regards of a new leader; I would hope whoever gets the job at least follows the more traditional tory line of supporting the police force of our country in a better way than they have done in recent years! Maybe they can put as much effort into solving local burglaries and assaults on pensioners as they have done on the McCann case!!!

The traditional Tory line since Thatcher has been to look towards a more individualistic response to policing, e.g. private security (if you remember the sketch that Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry did, the joke about privatisation is an old one). The party of law and order solely relates to the harshness of the judiciary, not the allocation of resources of the police force. If you've been voting Tory over the last 40 years for a better funded police force then I'm sorry but you've voted for the wrong party.
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#15
(06-05-2019, 08:38 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(06-05-2019, 07:56 PM)FenlandBoing Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 09:24 AM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 08:46 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(05-30-2019, 07:47 AM)baggy1 Wrote: So basically he is saying that the majority of the UK electorate do not want a no deal brexit, but he only sees this as a threat because it will mean the Tory's will lose power not because the electorate don't want it. Sign him up he sounds perfect to lead the country  Rolleyes

Let's be honest, what's best for the Tory party is the overriding motivation for all of them (bar Boris, of course).

Going for no deal will kill them off long term, they're already toxic to a very sizeable proportion of young people to an extent that's never happened before. If they start losing business confidence to the Lib Dems then they're absolutely lost, you can't only represent pensioners.
Brexit aside, in regards of a new leader; I would hope whoever gets the job at least follows the more traditional tory line of supporting the police force of our country in a better way than they have done in recent years! Maybe they can put as much effort into solving local burglaries and assaults on pensioners as they have done on the McCann case!!!

The traditional Tory line since Thatcher has been to look towards a more individualistic response to policing, e.g. private security (if you remember the sketch that Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry did, the joke about privatisation is an old one). The party of law and order solely relates to the harshness of the judiciary, not the allocation of resources of the police force. If you've been voting Tory over the last 40 years for a better funded police force then I'm sorry but you've voted for the wrong party.

Still, it seems less funded now than it used to be under them. I wonder which departments they have spent more money on in real terms since they came back into govt?
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#16
(05-29-2019, 11:59 AM)SausEggBaton Wrote: I want Boris Johnson for the pure comedy to be honest.

Would love to be a fly on the wall, at a meeting between Boris & Donald, should be hilarious.
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#17
Same medicine, different bottle.
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#18
(06-09-2019, 07:42 AM)ColliersWoodBaggie Wrote: Same medicine, different bottle.


Quite an apt comment given were learning that they're all drug fiends. Sounds like no-one does a party like the Conservative Party. Smile
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#19
(06-09-2019, 09:54 AM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(06-09-2019, 07:42 AM)ColliersWoodBaggie Wrote: Same medicine, different bottle.


Quite an apt comment given were learning that they're all drug fiends. Sounds like no-one does a party like the Conservative Party. Smile
Looking forwardto the speeches 
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#20
Nothing much changes, I can’t quite work out if this is the Tory Party conference from the early 80s or the Brexit Party 2019...

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