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Strip away the parachute payments
#1
and how much are we worth? 

Wigan just went for 22 million. If we don't go up by the end of next season our owner will have lost mebbes 200 fat fish.

This might be relevant for those claiming the owner doesn't care what division we're in.
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(11-08-2018, 10:07 AM)Pneumann Wrote: and how much are we worth? 

Wigan just went for 22 million. If we don't go up by the end of next season our owner will have lost mebbes 200 fat fish.

This might be relevant for those claiming the owner doesn't care what division we're in.

People really need to understand. It isn’t about what the club is worth to Lai, it’s about what the club’s brand was worth to him in China.

He’s hardly going to be focusing on £100m in broadcast rights income, which will end up being reinvested in the club anyway, when there’s £100b worth of town planning contracts at stake and the Chinese government have suddenly decided to stop liking football.

Wim fucked.
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(11-08-2018, 10:07 AM)Pneumann Wrote: and how much are we worth? 

Wigan just went for 22 million. If we don't go up by the end of next season our owner will have lost mebbes 200 fat fish.

This might be relevant for those claiming the owner doesn't care what division we're in
Can you stop using your brain and just say Jenkins is a beep and the club are happy to be a midtable Championship club! These are the type of facts this place does best!
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(11-08-2018, 10:53 AM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:07 AM)Pneumann Wrote: and how much are we worth? 

Wigan just went for 22 million. If we don't go up by the end of next season our owner will have lost mebbes 200 fat fish.

This might be relevant for those claiming the owner doesn't care what division we're in.

People really need to understand. It isn’t about what the club is worth to Lai, it’s about what the club’s brand was worth to him in China.

He’s hardly going to be focusing on £100m in broadcast rights income, which will end up being reinvested in the club anyway, when there’s £100b worth of town planning contracts at stake and the Chinese government have suddenly decided to stop liking football.

Wim fucked.

Exactly this, he wanted and bought the academy and the way we nurture local talent to be able to used in China.
The club was an add on
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(11-08-2018, 01:23 PM)Bratislava Baggie Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:53 AM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:07 AM)Pneumann Wrote: and how much are we worth? 

Wigan just went for 22 million. If we don't go up by the end of next season our owner will have lost mebbes 200 fat fish.

This might be relevant for those claiming the owner doesn't care what division we're in.

People really need to understand. It isn’t about what the club is worth to Lai, it’s about what the club’s brand was worth to him in China.

He’s hardly going to be focusing on £100m in broadcast rights income, which will end up being reinvested in the club anyway, when there’s £100b worth of town planning contracts at stake and the Chinese government have suddenly decided to stop liking football.

Wim fucked.

Exactly this, he wanted and bought the academy and the way we nurture local talent to be able to used in China.
The club was an add on

He spent nearly £200m to gain insight into how our academy operates so he could replicate it in China? I doubt the Chinese state are that impressed by the seal of approval our badge gives him when he’s tendering for another eco town.
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#6
Derek's point is huge and sharp. You'd have to be wildly, swivel-eyed insane to want to replicate our academy success for 200 million.
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(11-08-2018, 01:30 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 01:23 PM)Bratislava Baggie Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:53 AM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(11-08-2018, 10:07 AM)Pneumann Wrote: and how much are we worth? 

Wigan just went for 22 million. If we don't go up by the end of next season our owner will have lost mebbes 200 fat fish.

This might be relevant for those claiming the owner doesn't care what division we're in.

People really need to understand. It isn’t about what the club is worth to Lai, it’s about what the club’s brand was worth to him in China.

He’s hardly going to be focusing on £100m in broadcast rights income, which will end up being reinvested in the club anyway, when there’s £100b worth of town planning contracts at stake and the Chinese government have suddenly decided to stop liking football.

Wim fucked.

Exactly this, he wanted and bought the academy and the way we nurture local talent to be able to used in China.
The club was an add on

He spent nearly £200m to gain insight into how our academy operates so he could replicate it in China? I doubt the Chinese state are that impressed by the seal of approval our badge gives him when he’s tendering for another eco town.

At the time and reading about this hadn’t the Chinese government said they wanted to win the World Cup by 2050?

The Palm plan was to build eco towns and for all these towns to have football academies and good facilities.  A PL badge and name on these academies, together with coaching knowledge etc would look great during the tendering process.  As a bi-product of this we may have gained a following in China from these new communities/towns with this link.


We are/were a means to an end to help Palm win these contracts and I suspect no more than a sunk cost now.

Obviously this could be wrong and he bought the club because of our tour of China etc. and I’m sure as a multi- billionaire he’ll do all he can to financially support the club back to the PL and become a mainstay at that level....

Dekka I thought it was you that lived in the real world and had a cynicism, mixed with a dose of realism, to match.  If the eco-town route is dead then Lai has no real reason to give a monkey’s toss about us.  Of course he would obviously prefer us to be a PL side to hold some value,  clearly not enough to consider offering a penny or Yuan to aide us in getting back there though.

Absent, uninterested owners never ends well for a football club, the best we can thank him for is not promising monies that were never going to arrive and us carrying on the JP thrift model will see us better than the harder times some clubs who overspent have had.  We play Ipswich in a few weeks, if you hold up a mirror we may appear in the reflection.
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#8
Without the parachute money we can play our local derby games against Walsall - that's the reality.
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#9
Whatever happens he'll either want us up or rid of us.

It'd be of huge embarrassment to him as a business man if he buys a club and they end up in League Two rotting.

The real worry is - who is the next owner going to be?
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#10
Selling would have it's problems - a big loss would be in the offing.
We have 40 million less in the bank and a 50 million drop in annual income and now being a champ club
That would put the club worth at approx 80-90 million IMO approx half of what Lai paid.
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