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We will never be able to defend under DM and Jones
#21
The system is wrong. Play 442 and take Bartley out the team for Barry.
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#22
(09-14-2018, 09:39 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:12 PM)clem4england Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 08:47 PM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Sadly, I think three centre backs poncing about is the new thing. It can work if you have the best quality players, although even Man City have looked wobbly at times. When you recall how solid Dawson and Hegazi looked at the end of last season, you have to wonder whether it needed changing.

Mick McCarthy was on Talksport commentary. He was very scathing about Bartley out on the left, being skinned on a regular basis in the first half. You need the players for the system - or you have to choose a system that suits the players.
Totally agree. The players don’t look happy with it. The centre halves aren’t good enough on the ball for it and the midfield too slow. You play a formation that suits the players you have.

A senior squad of nineteen players, with one out injured, one out ill and three goalkeepers, doesn’t leave BD with a lot of options.

We’re struggling in midfield because we booted Yacob and haven’t replace Brunt. People are clamouring for Field but he’s getting better every time he doesn’t play.

The squad is unbalanced and far too light. Can’t blame BD for that.

BD is the manager - he gets the rewards and carries the can. I want him to win all games and play attractive attacking football (as he said). Unfortunately he is making error after error and hasn't either got the brains or balls to sort it. 
6 games in the PL - a summer window - weeks to introduce new players and systems, 7 games have not demonstrated he has improved anything? Apart from the clubs bank balance.
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#23
(09-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:12 PM)clem4england Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 08:47 PM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Sadly, I think three centre backs poncing about is the new thing. It can work if you have the best quality players, although even Man City have looked wobbly at times. When you recall how solid Dawson and Hegazi looked at the end of last season, you have to wonder whether it needed changing.

Mick McCarthy was on Talksport commentary. He was very scathing about Bartley out on the left, being skinned on a regular basis in the first half. You need the players for the system - or you have to choose a system that suits the players.
Totally agree. The players don’t look happy with it. The centre halves aren’t good enough on the ball for it and the midfield too slow. You play a formation that suits the players you have.

A senior squad of nineteen players, with one out injured, one out ill and three goalkeepers, doesn’t leave BD with a lot of options.

We’re struggling in midfield because we booted Yacob and haven’t replace Brunt. People are clamouring for Field but he’s getting better every time he doesn’t play.

The squad is unbalanced and far too light. Can’t blame BD for that.

You can organise whilst out of possession, you can instruct players to not put themselves under pressure defensively, you can mix play up rather than play stubbornly out from the back, you can not try and change the teams whole way of playing in one turbulent summer. 

It’s great that we are trying to play prettier football but be sensible about the speed at which you are trying to change things. 

Anyway with Jones as an assistant open and fragile football was always going to be in the cards. It’ll be exciting but it’s a big gamble.
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#24
(09-14-2018, 09:39 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:12 PM)clem4england Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 08:47 PM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Sadly, I think three centre backs poncing about is the new thing. It can work if you have the best quality players, although even Man City have looked wobbly at times. When you recall how solid Dawson and Hegazi looked at the end of last season, you have to wonder whether it needed changing.

Mick McCarthy was on Talksport commentary. He was very scathing about Bartley out on the left, being skinned on a regular basis in the first half. You need the players for the system - or you have to choose a system that suits the players.
Totally agree. The players don’t look happy with it. The centre halves aren’t good enough on the ball for it and the midfield too slow. You play a formation that suits the players you have.

A senior squad of nineteen players, with one out injured, one out ill and three goalkeepers, doesn’t leave BD with a lot of options.

We’re struggling in midfield because we booted Yacob and haven’t replace Brunt. People are clamouring for Field but he’s getting better every time he doesn’t play.

The squad is unbalanced and far too light. Can’t blame BD for that.

BD is the manager - he gets the rewards and carries the can. I want him to win all games and play attractive attacking football (as he said). Unfortunately he is making error after error and hasn't either got the brains or balls to sort it. 
6 games in the PL - a summer window - weeks to introduce new players and systems, 7 games have not demonstrated he has improved anything? Apart from the clubs bank balance.

Yup, here we fucking go.

Jenkins gnaws the squad to the bone and it’s the manager and the players who for cop for it.

All so predictable.
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#25
(09-14-2018, 09:44 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:12 PM)clem4england Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 08:47 PM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Sadly, I think three centre backs poncing about is the new thing. It can work if you have the best quality players, although even Man City have looked wobbly at times. When you recall how solid Dawson and Hegazi looked at the end of last season, you have to wonder whether it needed changing.

Mick McCarthy was on Talksport commentary. He was very scathing about Bartley out on the left, being skinned on a regular basis in the first half. You need the players for the system - or you have to choose a system that suits the players.
Totally agree. The players don’t look happy with it. The centre halves aren’t good enough on the ball for it and the midfield too slow. You play a formation that suits the players you have.

A senior squad of nineteen players, with one out injured, one out ill and three goalkeepers, doesn’t leave BD with a lot of options.

We’re struggling in midfield because we booted Yacob and haven’t replace Brunt. People are clamouring for Field but he’s getting better every time he doesn’t play.

The squad is unbalanced and far too light. Can’t blame BD for that.

You can organise whilst out of possession, you can instruct players to not put themselves under pressure defensively, you can mix play up rather than play stubbornly out from the back, you can not try and change the teams whole way of playing in one turbulent summer. 

It’s great that we are trying to play prettier football but be sensible about the speed at which you are trying to change things. 

Anyway with Jones as an assistant open and fragile football was always going to be in the cards. It’ll be exciting but it’s a big gamble.
give me a nil nil draw against west ham in the premiership anyday.
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#26
(09-14-2018, 09:54 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:39 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:12 PM)clem4england Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 08:47 PM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Sadly, I think three centre backs poncing about is the new thing. It can work if you have the best quality players, although even Man City have looked wobbly at times. When you recall how solid Dawson and Hegazi looked at the end of last season, you have to wonder whether it needed changing.

Mick McCarthy was on Talksport commentary. He was very scathing about Bartley out on the left, being skinned on a regular basis in the first half. You need the players for the system - or you have to choose a system that suits the players.
Totally agree. The players don’t look happy with it. The centre halves aren’t good enough on the ball for it and the midfield too slow. You play a formation that suits the players you have.

A senior squad of nineteen players, with one out injured, one out ill and three goalkeepers, doesn’t leave BD with a lot of options.

We’re struggling in midfield because we booted Yacob and haven’t replace Brunt. People are clamouring for Field but he’s getting better every time he doesn’t play.

The squad is unbalanced and far too light. Can’t blame BD for that.

BD is the manager - he gets the rewards and carries the can. I want him to win all games and play attractive attacking football (as he said). Unfortunately he is making error after error and hasn't either got the brains or balls to sort it. 
6 games in the PL - a summer window - weeks to introduce new players and systems, 7 games have not demonstrated he has improved anything? Apart from the clubs bank balance.

Yup, here we fucking go.

Jenkins gnaws the squad to the bone and it’s the manager and the players who for cop for it.

All so predictable.

You’re going to have tell me why it’s Jenkins fault that we seem hell bent on shooting ourselves in the foot by taking unnecessary risks defensively, throwing your hand up in the air the give away a penalty, not tracking your player into the box, turning into trouble? Almost all the problems that’s we have encountered are due to our own making and nothing to do with the size of squad.
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#27
(09-14-2018, 08:40 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Just putting that out there... 

It might not matter but fecking hell so the basics right.

That was not just about defending tonight, it was all the aimless, clueless and amateurish possession and passing amongst our poorest ball players most of the game.

You could see the frustration from the quality footballers at the other end of the pitch.

Really cannot see much point to this rubbish. Boring, negative, wasteful, poorly coached and unprofessional sh8te basically.

Oh, and the thing they should be doing (DEFENDING)  seems to be getting worse as a unit if that's possible.

So lucky not to have been 4 or 5-1 tonight which is unbelievable against such a limited rag tag outfit.
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#28
(09-14-2018, 10:14 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:54 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:39 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:27 PM)Gewonenzow Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 09:12 PM)clem4england Wrote: Totally agree. The players don’t look happy with it. The centre halves aren’t good enough on the ball for it and the midfield too slow. You play a formation that suits the players you have.

A senior squad of nineteen players, with one out injured, one out ill and three goalkeepers, doesn’t leave BD with a lot of options.

We’re struggling in midfield because we booted Yacob and haven’t replace Brunt. People are clamouring for Field but he’s getting better every time he doesn’t play.

The squad is unbalanced and far too light. Can’t blame BD for that.

BD is the manager - he gets the rewards and carries the can. I want him to win all games and play attractive attacking football (as he said). Unfortunately he is making error after error and hasn't either got the brains or balls to sort it. 
6 games in the PL - a summer window - weeks to introduce new players and systems, 7 games have not demonstrated he has improved anything? Apart from the clubs bank balance.

Yup, here we fucking go.

Jenkins gnaws the squad to the bone and it’s the manager and the players who for cop for it.

All so predictable.

You’re going to have tell me why it’s Jenkins fault that we seem hell bent on shooting ourselves in the foot by taking unnecessary risks defensively, throwing your hand up in the air the give away a penalty, not tracking your player into the box, turning into trouble? Almost all the problems that’s we have encountered are due to our own making and nothing to do with the size of squad.

See other thread.
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