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#21
I'm not sure if we have discovered, young players have a bit more desire then maybe older more established stars, who have been corrupted by the money running through the game at the moment. Just a thought.
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#22
Dalic won the game for them at halftime in the dressing room. Swopping his wide men over and putting Perisic up against Trippier. Dalic didn`t want Trippier getting out. Their defence played 10 yards further up, press high, stretch the game, and take control in the middle. It worked.

Southgate was found wanting. Fresh legs and like for like subs are not always enough.
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#23
Looked to me like we had been coached by AFI, sideways and backwards passing, then coached by TFP, one shot on target all game and relying on free kicks and corners to score, we got what we deserved.
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#24
(07-12-2018, 08:42 AM)Sandking Wrote: Dalic won the game for them at halftime in the dressing room. Swopping his wide men over and putting Perisic up against Trippier. Dalic didn`t want Trippier getting out. Their defence played 10 yards further up, press high, stretch the game, and take control in the middle. It worked.

Southgate was found wanting. Fresh legs and like for like subs are not always enough.
nail and head

Game we really should have won  - gutted - best chance we've had to win the wc since italia 90
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#25
On balance, not much to criticise.

Perhaps the one player we are missing is the creative midfielder who can supply a final pass, whether it's from deep or an advanced position - a Pirlo, or an Iniesta. Obviously, those players don't grow on trees but it does warrant the question being asked as to why the supposed 'best league in the world' can't supply the England team with even one.
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#26
(07-12-2018, 09:21 AM)Ossian Wrote: On balance, not much to criticise.

Perhaps the one player we are missing is the creative midfielder who can supply a final pass, whether it's from deep or an advanced position - a Pirlo, or an Iniesta. Obviously, those players don't grow on trees but it does warrant the question being asked as to why the supposed 'best league in the world' can't supply the England team with even one.

It can supply several that fit the bill.....shame none of them are English!
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#27
(07-12-2018, 09:21 AM)Ossian Wrote: On balance, not much to criticise.

Perhaps the one player we are missing is the creative midfielder who can supply a final pass, whether it's from deep or an advanced position - a Pirlo, or an Iniesta. Obviously, those players don't grow on trees but it does warrant the question being asked as to why the supposed 'best league in the world' can't supply the England team with even one.

In the context of this world cup, I think we were missing an extra central midfield player. Our system suited us, but I think it is very difficult to play both Lingard and Alli in midfield, but not sure we had anybody else with enough quality to play along side Henderson.

As the tournament went on, Belgium started to play more and more central midfield players - initially starting off with just Wittel and then bringing in Dembele and Fellani. Obviously didn't work for them in the end, but it did get them through the Brazil game.
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#28
(07-12-2018, 09:26 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote:
(07-12-2018, 09:21 AM)Ossian Wrote: On balance, not much to criticise.

Perhaps the one player we are missing is the creative midfielder who can supply a final pass, whether it's from deep or an advanced position - a Pirlo, or an Iniesta. Obviously, those players don't grow on trees but it does warrant the question being asked as to why the supposed 'best league in the world' can't supply the England team with even one.

It can supply several that fit the bill.....shame none of them are English!

The ones I can think of - De Bruyne, Silva, Hazard, as examples - mostly cut their teeth in other leagues first. 

This might be where the Under-17, Under-19, Under-21 supply line does its job and produces the players we need; there are certainly signs of that already.
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#29
(07-12-2018, 09:33 AM)Ossian Wrote:
(07-12-2018, 09:26 AM)Solihull Throstle Wrote:
(07-12-2018, 09:21 AM)Ossian Wrote: On balance, not much to criticise.

Perhaps the one player we are missing is the creative midfielder who can supply a final pass, whether it's from deep or an advanced position - a Pirlo, or an Iniesta. Obviously, those players don't grow on trees but it does warrant the question being asked as to why the supposed 'best league in the world' can't supply the England team with even one.

It can supply several that fit the bill.....shame none of them are English!

The ones I can think of - De Bruyne, Silva, Hazard, as examples - mostly cut their teeth in other leagues first. 

This might be where the Under-17, Under-19, Under-21 supply line does its job and produces the players we need; there are certainly signs of that already.

But will those lads who have done so well in the Junior World Cups actually get a chance in the top flight here?
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#30
(07-11-2018, 10:59 PM)Statto Wrote: For all Croatia's ball retention was better than ours second half, we were undone defensively by conceding two goals that you just have to defend better if you want to win the world cup. Walker for the first and Stones for the second have to be more switched on and deal with the situation. Croatia got on top, but ultimately won the game because they defended better than we did.

Agree with this and Croatia deserved their victory. Fitter, more savvy and ruthless, superior in midfield. From an English perspective, three key moments where errors floored us. Kane's failure to roll the ball to Sterling to score when through and make it 2-0 thus changing the whole dynamic of the game, Walker waiting for the cross to come on to him instead of meeting the ball, Stones for being asleep for their second. In that sense it was the same old England. However let's hope we can build on the many positives that have come out of the tournament.
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