Unevidenced testing of our children
#1
NHS Test and Trace (England) statistics: 11 February to 17 February 2021 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

There have been around 3.95 million tests done on primary and secondary school kids with a whopping 7.2K positives. That's 0.18%. I don't want to start on false positives but that's them all and as it's the LFT the claim that a negative test makes you safe is also completely untrue. In fact Sage's educational videos state it many times. LFTs won't rule out infection today or tomorrow.

Add to this that no data has been presented on the benefits, no evaluation done and certainly there is no presented evidence to suggest such a mass screening of our kids is anything but a gross failure of public health principles and potentially ethics.

So in a nutshell millions of tests no positives, due to the type of tests can't rule out infection at a later date and it's a colossal waste of money.

Why would we keep testing them in this way? What actual harms are being done to our kids testing them like this anyway from a much wider perspective in terms of harms? 

It's abuse and if you have kids I'd suggest you ensure they're not tested at all if you've got any sense of concern about their wellbeing.
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#2
They're tested so that if they test positive they can stay at home and cause minimal disruption to the rest of the school.
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#3
(03-02-2021, 03:28 PM)woodman Wrote: NHS Test and Trace (England) statistics: 11 February to 17 February 2021 - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

There have been around 3.95 million tests done on primary and secondary school kids with a whopping 7.2K positives. That's 0.18%. I don't want to start on false positives but that's them all and as it's the LFT the claim that a negative test makes you safe is also completely untrue. In fact Sage's educational videos state it many times. LFTs won't rule out infection today or tomorrow.

Add to this that no data has been presented on the benefits, no evaluation done and certainly there is no presented evidence to suggest such a mass screening of our kids is anything but a gross failure of public health principles and potentially ethics.

So in a nutshell millions of tests no positives, due to the type of tests can't rule out infection at a later date and it's a colossal waste of money.

Why would we keep testing them in this way? What actual harms are being done to our kids testing them like this anyway from a much wider perspective in terms of harms? 

It's abuse and if you have kids I'd suggest you ensure they're not tested at all if you've got any sense of concern about their wellbeing.

What are you talking about 'Our Kids'? You're based in the US or have you forgotten that whopper?
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#4
(03-02-2021, 03:28 PM)woodman Wrote: What actual harms are being done to our kids testing them like this anyway from a much wider perspective in terms of harms? 

It's abuse and if you have kids I'd suggest you ensure they're not tested at all if you've got any sense of concern about their wellbeing.

Probably none, beyond minor irritation of their nasal cavities and watery eyes for a couple of minutes.

It isn't; it's just a (at worst) mildly invasive preventative measure - imperfect, but better than no test at all.
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#5
Six kids in one class got Covid in my sons school before Christmas. Add to that several outbreaks around the school and two year groups closing. I think I will be more than happy for some testing to be done so the school and parents can make an informed decision whether it is safe for them to be in school and to shield those vulnerable they may live with or socialise with outside the school.

Is Woody a parody account?
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#6
He thinks this is twitter and soon enough his bullshit will be covered up by dozens of other nutters and their theories. When he posts on a bored full of middle aged men that haven't got anything better to do and tend not to get hysterical he stands out like a sore thumb.
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#7
It's a fucking weird situation with him .....the mom and dad's will be holding the kids down to have it done to get away from home schooling .....it's a cotton bud on your tonsil and up the nose it's not exactly key hole surgery ffs .
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#8
(03-02-2021, 03:58 PM)baggy1 Wrote: He thinks this is twitter and soon enough his bullshit will be covered up by dozens of other nutters and their theories. When he posts on a bored full of middle aged men that haven't got anything better to do and tend not to get hysterical he stands out like a sore thumb.

That hurt. It hurt in the way that the truth always does. 

I've tried to think of a rebuttal, but there isn't one.
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(03-02-2021, 03:58 PM)baggy1 Wrote: He thinks this is twitter and soon enough his bullshit will be covered up by dozens of other nutters and their theories. When he posts on a bored full of middle aged men that haven't got anything better to do and tend not to get hysterical he stands out like a sore thumb.

I've got better things to do but just too lazy to do them. Stop generalizing.
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(03-02-2021, 04:25 PM)Fido Wrote:
(03-02-2021, 03:58 PM)baggy1 Wrote: He thinks this is twitter and soon enough his bullshit will be covered up by dozens of other nutters and their theories. When he posts on a bored full of middle aged men that haven't got anything better to do and tend not to get hysterical he stands out like a sore thumb.

I've got better things to do but just too lazy to do them. Stop generalizing.

Yeah, and I'm not middle aged.
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