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#31
Tried to give us as much slack to the Govt as possible in this situation - it is one not of their making, and given that it is an entirely new virus, it is inevitable that there would be a lot of learning needed to be done on the hoof, and inevitable given that things will have been said and done that in hindsight will have been seen to be a mistake.

However today's performance by the Govt is beyond anything that is acceptable. The original decision making of Cummings was wrong, I have sympathy with him for the predicament he and his wife found themselves, but nevertheless he did the wrong and for someone in his position he should have resigned.

The Govt's response to the revelation of Cumming's error has been far worse than the original offence. It is a slap in the face for the millions of us who have kept to the rules . In particular to those parents who became ill, who had young children and stayed at home as they were asked to do. Rubbing salt in the wounds is the excuse given by some Cabinet members that Cummings did what any good parent would have done, the implication of that being those of us who followed the rules could be seen as 'bad' parents.

In my view the Govt today had a decision to make would they seek to uphold their social distancing policy or would they seek to save the career of one of their senior policy advisers. We now know what they think is more important.
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#32
What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks
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#33
We can't hold the hand of our dying relations hands; we can't get married; we can't attend funerals; kids can't visit their grandparents. 

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#34
(05-23-2020, 08:28 PM)baggy1 Wrote: What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks

Johnson is nothing without Cummings and he knows it, his awful cabinet knows it and those in the media still trying to defend the indefensible know it. They have bent the rules that others have had to abide by to protect one person at the risk of undermining trust in the entire government and scientific advice. Strange as very worrying times we live in.
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#35
(05-23-2020, 08:28 PM)baggy1 Wrote: What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks

Cummings is basically PM in all but name imho, he should have resigned or if Bojo had any balls at all he should have fired him, up until Bojo gave that awfully confusing message of easing lock down the other week I personally thought he wasn't doing to bad a job all things considered, since then though the whole plan seems to have collapsed like a pack of playing cards.
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#36
(05-24-2020, 09:48 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-23-2020, 08:28 PM)baggy1 Wrote: What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks

Johnson is nothing without Cummings and he knows it, his awful cabinet knows it and those in the media still trying to defend the indefensible know it. They have bent the rules that others have had to abide by to protect one person at the risk of undermining trust in the entire government and scientific advice. Strange as very worrying times we live in.

It's a hard one derek for me was into un ethical of course it was but if he thought it was the best action for the safety of his child it's a no brainer.......you and me would do the same ...would you want the sack from your job for protecting your family I suspect no .......it looks bad but if he thought it was the best for his family who are we to pass judgement.
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#37
(05-24-2020, 07:18 PM)The liquidator Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 09:48 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-23-2020, 08:28 PM)baggy1 Wrote: What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks

Johnson is nothing without Cummings and he knows it, his awful cabinet knows it and those in the media still trying to defend the indefensible know it. They have bent the rules that others have had to abide by to protect one person at the risk of undermining trust in the entire government and scientific advice. Strange as very worrying times we live in.

It's a hard one derek for me was into un ethical of course it was but if he thought it was the best action for the safety of his child it's a no brainer.......you and me would do the same ...would you want the sack from your job for protecting your family I suspect no .......it looks bad but if he thought it was the best for his family who are we to pass judgement.

How is potentially exposing elderly people to Covid-19, on top of any other people you encounter on your 260 mile journey, as well as heading to a town for a jolly 30 miles away from where you're supposedly "isolating" protecting your family?

His wife has family in London, I'm sure he or his wife have friends in London or the South East that could have helped with shopping. His wife's recant of Cumming's illness in her Spectator column made it out that she wasn't severely impacted and was able to support Cummings and their son. It is, quite frankly, pure selfishness and the fact that many people in this country heeded to the guidelines and isolated themselves while he ignored them is quite frankly rage inducing.
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#38
(05-24-2020, 07:18 PM)The liquidator Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 09:48 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-23-2020, 08:28 PM)baggy1 Wrote: What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks

Johnson is nothing without Cummings and he knows it, his awful cabinet knows it and those in the media still trying to defend the indefensible know it. They have bent the rules that others have had to abide by to protect one person at the risk of undermining trust in the entire government and scientific advice. Strange as very worrying times we live in.

It's a hard one derek for me was into un ethical of course it was but if he thought it was the best action for the safety of his child it's a no brainer.......you and me would do the same ...would you want the sack from your job for protecting your family I suspect no .......it looks bad but if he thought it was the best for his family who are we to pass judgement.

How are you still believing them? Seriously Liq.

They are eroding trust in democracy and haven’t once shown any regret or admitted they have done / got anything wrong. Most of them since 2016. Put aside the nonsense about ‘winning’ and recognise they are alienating millions of people and many feel insulted.
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#39
I know its morally wrong but would you in honestly do the same if you thought it was the safest thing .....take your political goggles off because I'm seeing through as a parent not nothing political...

(05-24-2020, 07:25 PM)Borin\ Baggie Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 07:18 PM)The liquidator Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 09:48 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-23-2020, 08:28 PM)baggy1 Wrote: What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks

Johnson is nothing without Cummings and he knows it, his awful cabinet knows it and those in the media still trying to defend the indefensible know it. They have bent the rules that others have had to abide by to protect one person at the risk of undermining trust in the entire government and scientific advice. Strange as very worrying times we live in.

It's a hard one derek for me was into un ethical of course it was but if he thought it was the best action for the safety of his child it's a no brainer.......you and me would do the same ...would you want the sack from your job for protecting your family I suspect no .......it looks bad but if he thought it was the best for his family who are we to pass judgement.

How is potentially exposing elderly people to Covid-19, on top of any other people you encounter on your 260 mile journey, as well as heading to a town for a jolly 30 miles away from where you're supposedly "isolating" protecting your family?

His wife has family in London, I'm sure he or his wife have friends in London or the South East that could have helped with shopping. His wife's recant of Cumming's illness in her Spectator column made it out that she wasn't severely impacted and was able to support Cummings and their son. It is, quite frankly, pure selfishness and the fact that many people in this country heeded to the guidelines and isolated themselves while he ignored them is quite frankly rage inducing.

What IF they had both gone down with it bad ?......I think I've read they was in a separate building on a farm who looks after the child then ......its up to the parent who they want to look after him ......take your political glasses off its then easier to look at

(05-24-2020, 07:31 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 07:18 PM)The liquidator Wrote:
(05-24-2020, 09:48 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-23-2020, 08:28 PM)baggy1 Wrote: What you will see come out of this is that he simply doesn’t care what you think. If that doesn’t tell you more than anything about this government then nothing will.

Time to wake up folks

Johnson is nothing without Cummings and he knows it, his awful cabinet knows it and those in the media still trying to defend the indefensible know it. They have bent the rules that others have had to abide by to protect one person at the risk of undermining trust in the entire government and scientific advice. Strange as very worrying times we live in.

It's a hard one derek for me was into un ethical of course it was but if he thought it was the best action for the safety of his child it's a no brainer.......you and me would do the same ...would you want the sack from your job for protecting your family I suspect no .......it looks bad but if he thought it was the best for his family who are we to pass judgement.

How are you still believing this bullshit? Seriously Liq they are taking the piss.

They are eroding trust in democracy and haven’t once shown any regret or admitted they have done / got anything wrong. Most of them since 2016.

Dont even go down the road with democracy  on how everyone tried to stop it .....that ship has long  sailed
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#40
Liq - could be have asked family and friends in London to look after their child. The kid is an excuse for a jolly. If you cannot care for your child how can you drive for 4 hours.
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