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#11
(11-07-2017, 09:22 PM)UPontificator Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 09:02 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 07:35 PM)Donegal Wrote: "You fall for the sensationalist claptrap about avoidance which the ruling class uses as a convenient smokescreen to divert your attention from how they're already wasting billions operating 1950s standard public 'services'. That's the true scandal."


There you go with your binary arguments again
I still have the wit to see public services need to better AND that the rich take the piss with tax

It isn't a smokescreen at all, there's a whole army of financial lawyers and accountants making it a reality. The only smoke screen is the elite getting people to worry More about benefits scroungers than people who don't pay their fair share of tax

Quite. How anyone who supports the Tories can see themselves as anything but a supporter of the ruling class is a little confusing .

So what is the difference between the socialist ruling class and capitalist ruling class? You seriously think that McDonnell and Corbyn aren’t going to make us all worse off if they get the chance? Do think people were better off in Eastern Europe 30 years ago or better off here in capitalist UK.

I'm not a socialist but carry on.
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#12
(11-07-2017, 09:26 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 09:22 PM)UPontificator Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 09:02 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 07:35 PM)Donegal Wrote: "You fall for the sensationalist claptrap about avoidance which the ruling class uses as a convenient smokescreen to divert your attention from how they're already wasting billions operating 1950s standard public 'services'. That's the true scandal."


There you go with your binary arguments again
I still have the wit to see public services need to better AND that the rich take the piss with tax

It isn't a smokescreen at all, there's a whole army of financial lawyers and accountants making it a reality. The only smoke screen is the elite getting people to worry More about benefits scroungers than people who don't pay their fair share of tax

Quite. How anyone who supports the Tories can see themselves as anything but a supporter of the ruling class is a little confusing .

So what is the difference between the socialist ruling class and capitalist ruling class? You seriously think that McDonnell and Corbyn aren’t going to make us all worse off if they get the chance? Do think people were better off in Eastern Europe 30 years ago or better off here in capitalist UK.

I'm not a socialist but carry on.

Youre right you are a little confused

(11-07-2017, 09:26 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 09:22 PM)UPontificator Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 09:02 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 07:35 PM)Donegal Wrote: "You fall for the sensationalist claptrap about avoidance which the ruling class uses as a convenient smokescreen to divert your attention from how they're already wasting billions operating 1950s standard public 'services'. That's the true scandal."


There you go with your binary arguments again
I still have the wit to see public services need to better AND that the rich take the piss with tax

It isn't a smokescreen at all, there's a whole army of financial lawyers and accountants making it a reality. The only smoke screen is the elite getting people to worry More about benefits scroungers than people who don't pay their fair share of tax

Quite. How anyone who supports the Tories can see themselves as anything but a supporter of the ruling class is a little confusing .

So what is the difference between the socialist ruling class and capitalist ruling class? You seriously think that McDonnell and Corbyn aren’t going to make us all worse off if they get the chance? Do think people were better off in Eastern Europe 30 years ago or better off here in capitalist UK.

I'm not a socialist but carry on.

Youre right you are a little confused
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#13
(11-07-2017, 07:35 PM)Donegal Wrote: "You fall for the sensationalist claptrap about avoidance which the ruling class uses as a convenient smokescreen to divert your attention from how they're already wasting billions operating 1950s standard public 'services'. That's the true scandal."


There you go with your binary arguments again
I still have the wit to see public services need to better AND that the rich take the piss with tax

It isn't a smokescreen at all, there's a whole army of financial lawyers and accountants making it a reality. The only smoke screen is the elite getting people to worry More about benefits scroungers than people who don't pay their fair share of tax

Bollocks. The scroungers myth is the same tax-dodgers myth. There is more than enough cash going into Treasury every year for adequate public services. The tax burden is at a 35 year high.
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#14
Since the days of BLessed Margaret

I have very little time for this eejit but he has written an article I agree with. I think it is about you

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...SApp_Other
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#15
(11-07-2017, 10:32 PM)Donegal Wrote: Since the days of BLessed Margaret

I have very little time for this eejit but he has written an article I agree with. I think it is about you

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...SApp_Other

He's writing for a rag that is itself a study in tax avoidance.

The problem with this whole can of worms is that once you open it you find that *everyone* is at it to one extent or another.

Today we learn that Labour local authorities are borrowing your money to buy commercial property through offshore vehicles to avoid SDLT.
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#16
(11-08-2017, 09:52 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 10:32 PM)Donegal Wrote: Since the days of BLessed Margaret

I have very little time for this eejit but he has written an article I agree with. I think it is about you

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...SApp_Other

He's writing for a rag that is itself a study in tax avoidance.

The problem with this whole can of worms is that once you open it you find that *everyone* is at it to one extent or another.

Today we learn that Labour local authorities are borrowing your money to buy commercial property through offshore vehicles to avoid SDLT.


Its amusing to find myself defending the baby faced twat, but on the whole I agree with what he has written. Everyone's not at it, that is a ludicrous statement. The Guardian is not a rag (I pay to read the Times BTW)  Labour councils and SDLT..... it just illustrates how difficult they are finding things. What a crap and unworthy post Proth
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#17
the guardian is an awful newspaper though
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#18
(11-08-2017, 05:38 PM)Pontificator Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 09:52 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 10:32 PM)Donegal Wrote: Since the days of BLessed Margaret

I have very little time for this eejit but he has written an article I agree with. I think it is about you

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...SApp_Other

He's writing for a rag that is itself a study in tax avoidance.

The problem with this whole can of worms is that once you open it you find that *everyone* is at it to one extent or another.

Today we learn that Labour local authorities are borrowing your money to buy commercial property through offshore vehicles to avoid SDLT.


Its amusing to find myself defending the baby faced twat, but on the whole I agree with what he has written. Everyone's not at it, that is a ludicrous statement. The Guardian is not a rag (I pay to read the Times BTW)  Labour councils and SDLT..... it just illustrates how difficult they are finding things. What a crap and unworthy post Proth

And while he lived here he probably repaid it all ten-fold. I don’t like Hamilton at all but isn’t something that the EU should be putting pressure on instead of blaming individuals for taking advantage of loopholes? And for the record, yes, Owen Jones is one the biggest whoppers in the media.
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#19
(11-08-2017, 05:38 PM)Pontificator Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 09:52 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 10:32 PM)Donegal Wrote: Since the days of BLessed Margaret

I have very little time for this eejit but he has written an article I agree with. I think it is about you

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...SApp_Other

He's writing for a rag that is itself a study in tax avoidance.

The problem with this whole can of worms is that once you open it you find that *everyone* is at it to one extent or another.

Today we learn that Labour local authorities are borrowing your money to buy commercial property through offshore vehicles to avoid SDLT.


Its amusing to find myself defending the baby faced twat, but on the whole I agree with what he has written. Everyone's not at it, that is a ludicrous statement. The Guardian is not a rag (I pay to read the Times BTW)  Labour councils and SDLT..... it just illustrates how difficult they are finding things. What a crap and unworthy post Proth

I hope Proths current crap form is temporary
He has a good record of posting at least coherent arguments
Currently he is turning into mandown Pilt and we all know what happened to him
Come on Proth.....More telegraph and times, less daily mail and express please
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#20
(11-08-2017, 08:51 PM)Donegal Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 05:38 PM)Pontificator Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 09:52 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(11-07-2017, 10:32 PM)Donegal Wrote: Since the days of BLessed Margaret

I have very little time for this eejit but he has written an article I agree with. I think it is about you

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...SApp_Other

He's writing for a rag that is itself a study in tax avoidance.

The problem with this whole can of worms is that once you open it you find that *everyone* is at it to one extent or another.

Today we learn that Labour local authorities are borrowing your money to buy commercial property through offshore vehicles to avoid SDLT.


Its amusing to find myself defending the baby faced twat, but on the whole I agree with what he has written. Everyone's not at it, that is a ludicrous statement. The Guardian is not a rag (I pay to read the Times BTW)  Labour councils and SDLT..... it just illustrates how difficult they are finding things. What a crap and unworthy post Proth

I hope Proths current crap form is temporary
He has a good record of posting at least coherent arguments
Currently he is turning into mandown Pilt and we all know what happened to him
Come on Proth.....More telegraph and times, less daily mail and express please

Careful if you mention MDP he has an informant on here who lets him know. Then he posts to tell you that he knows, then deletes his post.
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