Schools to open or not?
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(05-16-2020, 08:18 PM)WWHO Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:59 PM)Duffers Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:52 PM)Sunshine Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:44 PM)WWHO Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:32 PM)Protheroe Wrote: It's a yes from me and the kids will be going.

Did you trust the BMA when they opposed the establishment of the NHS Dekka?

If we're going to start castigating institutions for historic mistakes, I'd like to register a complaint about the role your beloved Tory party played in the Peterloo massacre ...

How bout when they voted to appease Hitler?

Or when they said that people died in Grenfell because they “lacked common sense”...

Ooh, I quite like this game.  Remember when Thatcher sent an estimated $160m worth of weapons to her old pal Pinochet to use in the violent repression of his own people (after mounting a coup that ended in the murder of a democratically elected leader).

Speaking of which... their response to Hillsborough was fair and even handed wasn’t it?
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#32
(05-16-2020, 05:19 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 02:09 PM)Squid Wrote: Derek - the BMA is just a union of doctors, not the final word on medical science. Plenty of doctors disagree with them.

I don't think anyone is "the enemy" and we need to move past such divisive labelling. Nor do I think that society getting back to normal is a desire solely driven by money. The Children's Commissioner of England agrees:

https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk...to-school/

The children’s commissioner was employed by the government she’s hardly going to contradict them. 

The BMA is a union of highly qualified doctors I will trust them. I don’t really get the argument that because they are a union they aren’t to be listened to. I would rather them than well... 

The enemy point was in reference to papers such as the Mail trying to create a them and us narrative. They know what they are doing it’s hardly subtle.

This shows that you don't know anything about the Children's Commissioner or their role. They are an independent voice for the rights of children and young people and regularly disagree with the government. The role was established by the Children 2004, so under a Labour Government. The children who are suffering most from missing school are the most disadvantaged.

As for the BMA, they are not very popular with Doctors after messing up their pay deal.

Finally, that people seem determined that this conversation is Left v Right is very tedious, when opinions on lockdown vary across the political spectrum.
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#33
Leave them closed until next shcool year. I don't see the point sending them back so close to the summers holidays.
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#34
(05-16-2020, 10:41 PM)Squid Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 05:19 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 02:09 PM)Squid Wrote: Derek - the BMA is just a union of doctors, not the final word on medical science. Plenty of doctors disagree with them.

I don't think anyone is "the enemy" and we need to move past such divisive labelling. Nor do I think that society getting back to normal is a desire solely driven by money. The Children's Commissioner of England agrees:

https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk...to-school/

The children’s commissioner was employed by the government she’s hardly going to contradict them. 

The BMA is a union of highly qualified doctors I will trust them. I don’t really get the argument that because they are a union they aren’t to be listened to. I would rather them than well... 

The enemy point was in reference to papers such as the Mail trying to create a them and us narrative. They know what they are doing it’s hardly subtle.

This shows that you don't know anything about the Children's Commissioner or their role. They are an independent voice for the rights of children and young people and regularly disagree with the government. The role was established by the Children 2004, so under a Labour Government. The children who are suffering most from missing school are the most disadvantaged.

As for the BMA, they are not very popular with Doctors after messing up their pay deal.

Finally, that people seem determined that this conversation is Left v Right is very tedious, when opinions on lockdown vary across the political spectrum.

After a decade of cuts effecting the most disadvantaged in society it’s now important to look after them.

September was a perfectly understandable and reasonable time to go back not now when half the measures we are supposed to have in place will be barely in their infancy if they are happening at all. 

Whether it was Labour, Tory or Whig in times like this I doubt any senior government appointed position is going to get embroiled on the wrong side of their ultimate bosses position.
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#35
I think we will keep our Year 1 six year old at home with his ten year old year 5 brother. Crazy that 4, 5 and 6 year olds I.e. those least likely to socially distance are going back first. Schooling at the age is pretty elementary and Mrs CIM is doing a good job 1-2-1 teaching him at home. The priority should be to get secondary kids back to school where specialist teaching and academic study become key.
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#36
(05-17-2020, 08:02 AM)Cunninghamismagic Wrote: I think we will keep our Year 1 six year old at home with his ten year old year 5 brother. Crazy that 4, 5 and 6 year olds I.e. those least likely to socially distance are going back first. Schooling at the age is pretty elementary and Mrs CIM is doing a good job 1-2-1 teaching him at home. The priority should be to get secondary kids back to school where specialist teaching and academic study become key.

So, in a nutshell, other peoples' kids to go back and test the waters?
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#37
(05-16-2020, 07:55 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:32 PM)Protheroe Wrote: It's a yes from me and the kids will be going.

Did you trust the BMA when they opposed the establishment of the NHS Dekka?

Good question if this was 1948

No, the BMA is a union with its members interests at heart Dekka. This is often at odds with the public interest.

I'm sorry you're incapable of seeing that point, amongst many others.
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#38
(05-17-2020, 09:11 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:55 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:32 PM)Protheroe Wrote: It's a yes from me and the kids will be going.

Did you trust the BMA when they opposed the establishment of the NHS Dekka?

Good question if this was 1948

No, the BMA is a union with its members interests at heart Dekka. This is often at odds with the public interest.

I'm sorry you're incapable of seeing that point, amongst many others.

No it’s often at odds with some people’s idea of what is in the public’s interest. Your failure to recognise that members of unions are part of the public is telling.
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#39
(05-17-2020, 09:11 AM)Protheroe Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:55 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:
(05-16-2020, 07:32 PM)Protheroe Wrote: It's a yes from me and the kids will be going.

Did you trust the BMA when they opposed the establishment of the NHS Dekka?

Good question if this was 1948

No, the BMA is a union with its members interests at heart Dekka. This is often at odds with the public interest.

I'm sorry you're incapable of seeing that point, amongst many others.

For the vast majority of their long histories, the British trade union movement has worked in the public or national interest e.g. WWI, support for the 1932 General Tariff, WWII and public sector wage restraint of the late 1960s/early 1970s.  In fact, the traditionally (and consistently) conservative stance of pro-establishment union bureaucrats has regularly put them at odds with their more militant rank and file lay members.
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#40
(05-17-2020, 08:57 AM)Ossian Wrote:
(05-17-2020, 08:02 AM)Cunninghamismagic Wrote: I think we will keep our Year 1 six year old at home with his ten year old year 5 brother. Crazy that 4, 5 and 6 year olds I.e. those least likely to socially distance are going back first. Schooling at the age is pretty elementary and Mrs CIM is doing a good job 1-2-1 teaching him at home. The priority should be to get secondary kids back to school where specialist teaching and academic study become key.

So, in a nutshell, other peoples' kids to go back and test the waters?

It's a school  who else is going to go back ?

I wouldn't send the kids back until September personally let's get things in place with proper rules implemented.
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