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(06-13-2018, 02:14 PM)chasetownbaggie Wrote:
(06-13-2018, 09:44 AM)Duffmon Wrote: Fun fact for those who peddle the “Sven was a fraud” line...

He made three successive quarters, we haven’t made one since. In fact we haven’t won a knock out match since he left.

Given the players he had at his disposal, do you think he under-achieved, met expectations or over-achieved?

Tbh, my reasons for disliking him were a bit parochial. There were 2 things that annoyed the fugg out of me. 1) The friendly versus Australia when he had the opportunity to look at players not normally in the squad and he overlooked Russell Hoult who was still playing really well. 2) There was a period when both our 1st choice LBs (Cole and Bridge) were injured. We played Wigan on a Sunday and IIRC it was the only Prem game that day. 2 English LBs on view (Robbo and Baines) - was he there? Was he fugg. Like I said earlier, rarely seen anywhere other than OT, the Bernabeu and London.

Credit to Southgate (and Roy before him) - doing the legwork.

I’d say he came out on par, look at his record over each tournament:

WC02 - Took a squad ravaged by injuries (Mills, Sinclair, half fit Beckham) to a flukey goal from the semi finals. PAR

Euro04 - Lost to France but could he be blamed for Beckam’s missed pen or Stevie G’s backpass? Played very well against Switzerland and Croatia and were then desperately unlucky to lose on pens to tournament favourites and hosts Portugal after losing Rooney to injury. GOOD

WC06 - Few arguments, played poorly throughout but were still only a shootout away from the semis. POOR

As I said, I’d judge him about evens. You only have to look at the shitshows preceded over by McLaren and Capello with the same basic squad to see he wasn’t all that bad.
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Southgate - by Legend - 06-12-2018, 11:24 AM
RE: Southgate - by Black Penny - 06-12-2018, 11:27 AM
RE: Southgate - by Montserratbaggie - 06-12-2018, 11:29 AM
RE: Southgate - by SausEggBagel - 06-13-2018, 03:15 PM
RE: Southgate - by Beano16 - 06-12-2018, 12:20 PM
RE: Southgate - by wba_go_boing - 06-12-2018, 12:34 PM
RE: Southgate - by MGalea - 06-12-2018, 12:41 PM
RE: Southgate - by steviedm - 06-12-2018, 12:53 PM
RE: Southgate - by MGalea - 06-12-2018, 12:56 PM
RE: Southgate - by Black Penny - 06-12-2018, 04:29 PM
RE: Southgate - by wewerehereonce - 06-12-2018, 05:04 PM
RE: Southgate - by Solihull Throstle - 06-12-2018, 05:08 PM
RE: Southgate - by Mancbaggie - 06-12-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: Southgate - by chasetownbaggie - 06-12-2018, 11:03 PM
RE: Southgate - by Cheshire East Baggie - 06-13-2018, 07:15 AM
RE: Southgate - by WorcBaggie - 06-13-2018, 09:37 AM
RE: Southgate - by baggy1 - 06-13-2018, 09:38 AM
RE: Southgate - by Psalm23 - 06-13-2018, 09:41 AM
RE: Southgate - by Black Penny - 06-13-2018, 02:23 PM
RE: Southgate - by wewerehereonce - 06-13-2018, 03:19 PM
RE: Southgate - by Albionmad - 06-12-2018, 05:23 PM
RE: Southgate - by baggiebloke - 06-12-2018, 05:27 PM
RE: Southgate - by Hopalong - 06-12-2018, 06:09 PM
RE: Southgate - by Pipes Of Peace - 06-13-2018, 09:34 AM
RE: Southgate - by Duffmon - 06-13-2018, 09:44 AM
RE: Southgate - by chasetownbaggie - 06-13-2018, 02:14 PM
RE: Southgate - by Duffmon - 06-13-2018, 03:53 PM
RE: Southgate - by bangalorebaggie - 06-13-2018, 10:02 AM
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