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Labour leadership race - Shabby Russian - 03-04-2020

I don't think this is a longer contest than its predecessors, it just feels that way.

Have to say that nothing has changed my opinion that Lisa Nandy by some considerable distance is the best candidate.

Both Starmer and RLB would make competent front benchers, but they lack the personality and human empathy that Nandy has. 

Both Starmer and RLB have potential (probably definite in RLB's case) electoral issues. RLB brings the dreadful Unite leadership along with her and I suspect even as we speak Guido Fawkes is trawling through every embarrassing CPS cock up from Starmer's time as its boss.


RE: Labour leadership race - Ossian - 03-04-2020

Of the three I'd say Lisa Nandy is the most superficially engaging, but I'm not sure any of them is exceptional enough to pose a serious threat in 2024, or whenever. And, fair or otherwise, that's the dilemma for Labour - it needs an exceptional leader to have any hope of winning or even triggering a coalition. The Tories play by different rules: they can win with a deadleg at the helm and - however much we may not like it - that's the reality that has to be dealt with.

The situation is mirrored in America: the Democrats know what it takes: Kennedy, Clinton, Obama is what it takes. And yet they seem determined to offer Trump a virtual free pass to a second term by offering a choice between Sanders (someone I would vote for, but Americans won't - not in anything like sufficient numbers) or the decent but plodding Biden.

Obviously I hope my pessimism proves to be unfounded.

Edit: I hadn't forgotten Carter but he was, in many ways, an anomaly; albeit one who has been somewhat rehabilitated by the longer lens of posterity.


RE: Labour leadership race - Pickle Rick - 03-05-2020

I'm seeing ads on Facebook for Starmer but not the others yet - when does the voting end?


RE: Labour leadership race - baggy1 - 03-05-2020

2nd April


RE: Labour leadership race - Sunshine - 03-05-2020

(03-04-2020, 10:28 PM)Ossian Wrote: Of the three I'd say Lisa Nandy is the most superficially engaging, but I'm not sure any of them is exceptional enough to pose a serious threat in 2024, or whenever. And, fair or otherwise, that's the dilemma for Labour - it needs an exceptional leader to have any hope of winning or even triggering a coalition. The Tories play by different rules: they can win with a deadleg at the helm and - however much we may not like it - that's the reality that has to be dealt with.

The situation is mirrored in America: the Democrats know what it takes: Kennedy, Clinton, Obama is what it takes. And yet they seem determined to offer Trump a virtual free pass to a second term by offering a choice between Sanders (someone I would vote for, but Americans won't - not in anything like sufficient numbers) or the decent but plodding Biden.

Obviously I hope my pessimism proves to be unfounded.

Edit: I hadn't forgotten Carter but he was, in many ways, an anomaly; albeit one who has been somewhat rehabilitated by the longer lens of posterity.

Latest opinion polls say that Sanders has a bigger lead over Trump than the other Dem candidates.


RE: Labour leadership race - Shabby Russian - 03-05-2020

(03-05-2020, 05:09 PM)Sunshine Wrote:
(03-04-2020, 10:28 PM)Ossian Wrote: Of the three I'd say Lisa Nandy is the most superficially engaging, but I'm not sure any of them is exceptional enough to pose a serious threat in 2024, or whenever. And, fair or otherwise, that's the dilemma for Labour - it needs an exceptional leader to have any hope of winning or even triggering a coalition. The Tories play by different rules: they can win with a deadleg at the helm and - however much we may not like it - that's the reality that has to be dealt with.

The situation is mirrored in America: the Democrats know what it takes: Kennedy, Clinton, Obama is what it takes. And yet they seem determined to offer Trump a virtual free pass to a second term by offering a choice between Sanders (someone I would vote for, but Americans won't - not in anything like sufficient numbers) or the decent but plodding Biden.

Obviously I hope my pessimism proves to be unfounded.

Edit: I hadn't forgotten Carter but he was, in many ways, an anomaly; albeit one who has been somewhat rehabilitated by the longer lens of posterity.

Latest opinion polls say that Sanders has a bigger lead over Trump than the other Dem candidates.

First rule of politics don't pay attention to presidential polls at this time of the election year.

Saunders had significant leads in the Texas primary just days before he lost.


RE: Labour leadership race - baggy1 - 03-06-2020

The problem I have with the Labour leadership voting is that you have either a vote for the person as leader or deputy leader. There are some decent candidates in the Leadership poll that would be great deputies. Kier Starmer and Lisa Nandy would make a great Leader / Deputy combination IMO.

Going forward I think there is a brighter future for the Labour party than I did a couple of months ago. Hopefully the general public will realise, after a few years of Boris, that personality politics is not the way to run a country and the penny will drop that despite the rumours to the contrary, the mess arising from the past decade has been caused by one party, not two different types of Tory.


RE: Labour leadership race - fbaggy - 04-02-2020

and the ballot is now closed
#whocares


RE: Labour leadership race - The liquidator - 04-02-2020

I like lisa nandy beautiful eyes nice pair of tits aswell .


RE: Labour leadership race - fbaggy - 04-02-2020

(04-02-2020, 11:18 AM)The liquidator Wrote: I like lisa nandy beautiful eyes nice pair of tits  aswell .

looks like she could suck you off while still eating her chips