(05-16-2019, 08:12 PM)The liquidator Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:49 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:42 PM)The liquidator Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:38 PM)clem4england Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 02:22 PM)Pragmatist Wrote: Clearly very few have seen Lincoln play.  The Cowleys’ style of football, albeit successful in the lower divisions, would never gain the approval of our fanbase.  It very definitely is not pretty.

Spot on. This site is full of purists not Rheade appreciators!

No people just don't want the dark days of pulis and the poisonous effect he has on the fan base

Or the fantastic job that GM and Roy did. There influence meant we got up and enabled us to stay up. Mowbray, RDM and Mel’s style of football floundered when it really mattered.

Time has moved on DH football has changed , I know you don't like change and I  accept that you like it but others don't.  The days of pulis and Megson should be banished in the cellar . Greatful for what they done but I feel we need a new brush if houghton can do it fair enough but I suspect in 12 months there will be grumbles like Brighton fans had can't be arsed with all that crap again

(05-16-2019, 08:40 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 08:12 PM)The liquidator Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:49 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:42 PM)The liquidator Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:38 PM)clem4england Wrote: Spot on. This site is full of purists not Rheade appreciators!

No people just don't want the dark days of pulis and the poisonous effect he has on the fan base

Or the fantastic job that GM and Roy did. There influence meant we got up and enabled us to stay up. Mowbray, RDM and Mel’s style of football floundered when it really mattered.

Time has moved on DH football has changed , I know you don't like change and I  accept that you like it but others don't.  The days of pulis and Megson should be banished in the cellar . Greatful for what they done but I feel we need a new brush if houghton can do it fair enough but I suspect in 12 months there will be grumbles like Brighton fans had can't be arsed with all that crap again

Football is simple, if you’re winning most fans don’t care if you don’t people will grumble. Progressive football whatever that means will give a manager on a losing streak a few more matches but that’s all. 

I’m not old fashioned when it comes to football I’m a cynic when it comes to cliches and Guardian Football supplement type fan speak. ‘Young, progressive, hungry, projects’ they’re just meaningless words. The same with tactics, currently it’s trendy to play out from the back it doesn’t matter if the players you have at your disposal can play that way or not, just do it! Teams are literally tripping over themselves to follow each other like sheep. It doesn’t mean it’s the right or only way to play. We’ve had diamonds, Christmas trees, parking the bus it’s all rubbish. 

A managers job is to get the best out of the players he has, over time he can evolve his squad to be more in tune with how he wants to play but only if he wins games otherwise it’s tara! The game is simple but complicated by fools and charlatans and fans bit into it like customers buying snake oil.

(05-16-2019, 08:37 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote: Jenkins and Lai's plan for an immediate return was flawed, by the very nature we didn't get new legs.
We lost some quality players and retained several PL players, but we didn't get the drive, determination, leadership type
players in to get us up IMMHO (fwiw) We had a strong squad with experience, but tired and weak in energy.
Without a major change in direction and some investment any new manager will have to play the youngsters.
We still HAVE to get 2 or 3 players with that grit / drive / enthusiasm or we won't improve.

(05-16-2019, 08:12 PM)Duffers Wrote: Said before that I’d be perfectly happy with Hughton. There’s nothing wrong with pragmatic football as long as you’re actually trying to win matches too. Roy’s side was defensively solid but he also understood the importance of carrying a threat at the other end too.

What I don’t want though is for us to go up and return to the soul crushing existence of the race for 17th. Obviously I’m not daft enough to think we can do a Leicester, or even a Wolves without serious investment, but I would at least like to see a manger who tries to attack teams. Who won’t just concede matches to the big boys before a ball is kicked or down tools as soon as we hit 40 points.

The Pulis years were a joyless slog, existing rather than living. I’d like to see a manager who can make supporting Albion enjoyable again.

(05-16-2019, 08:46 PM)clem4england Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 08:40 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 08:12 PM)The liquidator Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:49 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:42 PM)The liquidator Wrote: No people just don't want the dark days of pulis and the poisonous effect he has on the fan base

Or the fantastic job that GM and Roy did. There influence meant we got up and enabled us to stay up. Mowbray, RDM and Mel’s style of football floundered when it really mattered.

Time has moved on DH football has changed , I know you don't like change and I  accept that you like it but others don't.  The days of pulis and Megson should be banished in the cellar . Greatful for what they done but I feel we need a new brush if houghton can do it fair enough but I suspect in 12 months there will be grumbles like Brighton fans had can't be arsed with all that crap again

Football is simple, if you’re winning most fans don’t care if you don’t people will grumble. Progressive football whatever that means will give a manager on a losing streak a few more matches but that’s all. 

I’m not old fashioned when it comes to football I’m a cynic when it comes to cliches and Guardian Football supplement type fan speak. ‘Young, progressive, hungry, projects’ they’re just meaningless words. The same with tactics, currently it’s trendy to play out from the back it doesn’t matter if the players you have at your disposal can play that way or not, just do it! Teams are literally tripping over themselves to follow each other like sheep. It doesn’t mean it’s the right or only way to play. We’ve had diamonds, Christmas trees, parking the bus it’s all rubbish. 

A managers job is to get the best out of the players he has, over time he can evolve his squad to be more in tune with how he wants to play but only if he wins games otherwise it’s tara! The game is simple but complicated by fools and charlatans and fans bit into it like customers buying snake oil.

Possibly the best post i’ve read on here. Sums up Dave’s reign perfectly.

(05-16-2019, 09:00 PM)Remi_Moses Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 08:46 PM)clem4england Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 08:40 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 08:12 PM)The liquidator Wrote:

(05-16-2019, 07:49 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: Or the fantastic job that GM and Roy did. There influence meant we got up and enabled us to stay up. Mowbray, RDM and Mel’s style of football floundered when it really mattered.

Time has moved on DH football has changed , I know you don't like change and I  accept that you like it but others don't.  The days of pulis and Megson should be banished in the cellar . Greatful for what they done but I feel we need a new brush if houghton can do it fair enough but I suspect in 12 months there will be grumbles like Brighton fans had can't be arsed with all that crap again

Football is simple, if you’re winning most fans don’t care if you don’t people will grumble. Progressive football whatever that means will give a manager on a losing streak a few more matches but that’s all. 

I’m not old fashioned when it comes to football I’m a cynic when it comes to cliches and Guardian Football supplement type fan speak. ‘Young, progressive, hungry, projects’ they’re just meaningless words. The same with tactics, currently it’s trendy to play out from the back it doesn’t matter if the players you have at your disposal can play that way or not, just do it! Teams are literally tripping over themselves to follow each other like sheep. It doesn’t mean it’s the right or only way to play. We’ve had diamonds, Christmas trees, parking the bus it’s all rubbish. 

A managers job is to get the best out of the players he has, over time he can evolve his squad to be more in tune with how he wants to play but only if he wins games otherwise it’s tara! The game is simple but complicated by fools and charlatans and fans bit into it like customers buying snake oil.

Possibly the best post i’ve read on here. Sums up Dave’s reign perfectly.

Dek that's a fair post and I don't complement you often - the only thing I would add is we still had some missing ingredients
so it was always going to be a struggle - Even the best chefs need all the ingredients to make the best cakes - but if your oven is not getting hot, you can shout, abuse or sack who you like but the cake ain't gonna rise.