(02-09-2022, 06:26 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: This is why you selfish xxxx !

(02-09-2022, 07:38 PM)Protheroe Wrote:

(02-09-2022, 06:26 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: This is why you selfish xxxx !

No, realistic. Half the people with Covid haven't even taken a test let alone isolating. At least a fifth of those who test positive aren't isolating.

And yet there have been no more deaths from respiratory illnesses than in a normal Winter.

The only selfish people here now are those denying our kids a speedy return to normality.

(02-09-2022, 06:26 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: This is why you selfish xxxx !

Bereaved families say government is 'opening the floodgates for COVID-19'
COVID-19 Bereaved Families for Justice has hit out at the government's aim to end self-isolation requirements this month.

"Whilst the Prime Minister is bragging about lifting restrictions a month early, we’re struggling to keep up with the number of hearts that need to be drawn on the Covid Memorial Wall," the group wrote on Twitter.

They pointed out that nearly 2,000 people are still dying from COVID each week.
"The Prime Minister might wish that this disease was no more dangerous than the flu, but the reality is that he is throwing the most vulnerable in our society to the wolves," they said.

"Just as [Downing Street] partied whilst the rest of us endured brutal lockdowns, they are once again opening the floodgates for Covid-19, with others being left to suffer the deadly consequences."

Ending COVID restrictions will cause 'huge anxiety' and 'complicated concerns' for vulnerable population, charity says
Blood cancer charity Myeloma UK has said the announcement by Boris Johnson to end COVID restrictions will cause "huge anxiety" and "complicated concerns" for the clinically extremely vulnerable population, writes Ian Sale.
Jo Nove, the charity's acting chief executive, added: "We cannot allow those who are vulnerable to be forgotten as the world opens back up.
“Myeloma patients are much more likely than the average person to contract COVID-19 and significantly less likely to have a strong immune response to a COVID-19 vaccination.

"There is currently no way to determine which patients have received sufficient protection from vaccines.
"This makes the lifting of social distancing and protection measures a highly stressful time for them.
“Immunocompromised patients have no way of knowing the level of risk they face as they go about their day-to-day lives.
"Returning to a place of work, doing the food shop, or dropping the children off at school all mean additional exposure with potentially serious consequences.

"This is especially concerning if there is no longer a legal requirement to self-isolate and we rely on people doing the right thing and staying home when they are ill."

(02-10-2022, 08:22 AM)JOK Wrote:

(02-09-2022, 06:26 PM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: This is why you selfish xxxx !

Bereaved families say government is 'opening the floodgates for COVID-19'
COVID-19 Bereaved Families for Justice has hit out at the government's aim to end self-isolation requirements this month.

"Whilst the Prime Minister is bragging about lifting restrictions a month early, we’re struggling to keep up with the number of hearts that need to be drawn on the Covid Memorial Wall," the group wrote on Twitter.

They pointed out that nearly 2,000 people are still dying from COVID each week.
"The Prime Minister might wish that this disease was no more dangerous than the flu, but the reality is that he is throwing the most vulnerable in our society to the wolves," they said.

"Just as [Downing Street] partied whilst the rest of us endured brutal lockdowns, they are once again opening the floodgates for Covid-19, with others being left to suffer the deadly consequences."

Ending COVID restrictions will cause 'huge anxiety' and 'complicated concerns' for vulnerable population, charity says
Blood cancer charity Myeloma UK has said the announcement by Boris Johnson to end COVID restrictions will cause "huge anxiety" and "complicated concerns" for the clinically extremely vulnerable population, writes Ian Sale.
Jo Nove, the charity's acting chief executive, added: "We cannot allow those who are vulnerable to be forgotten as the world opens back up.
“Myeloma patients are much more likely than the average person to contract COVID-19 and significantly less likely to have a strong immune response to a COVID-19 vaccination.

"There is currently no way to determine which patients have received sufficient protection from vaccines.
"This makes the lifting of social distancing and protection measures a highly stressful time for them.
“Immunocompromised patients have no way of knowing the level of risk they face as they go about their day-to-day lives.
"Returning to a place of work, doing the food shop, or dropping the children off at school all mean additional exposure with potentially serious consequences.

"This is especially concerning if there is no longer a legal requirement to self-isolate and we rely on people doing the right thing and staying home when they are ill."

Ignored the toll on Children’s mental health I see.


The % of adults showing moderate to sever signs of depression rose from 11% in 2019 to 31% in 2020! Thanks to lockdowns, which you want to continue infinitum, resulted in a drop of therapy starts by a third.
 
www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-55957105
 
“Extent of mental health crisis in England at ‘terrifying level’. Headline from your mates at the Guardian.

“England is “in the grip of a mental health crisis” because of the Covid pandemic”
“The Royal College of Psychiatrists has highlighted the sharp rise in mental ill health, that began after the first lockdown”.
 
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/09/extent-of-mental-health-crisis-in-england-at-terrifying-level
 
“The BMA estimates that in April, May and June 2020 in England there were: –
between 1.32 and 1.50 million fewer elective admissions than would usually be expected –
between 2.47 million and 2.60 million fewer first outpatient attendances –
between 274,000 and 286,000 fewer urgent cancer referrals –
between 20,800 and 25,900 fewer patients starting first cancer treatments following a decision to treat –
between 12,000 and 15,000 fewer patients starting first cancer treatments following an urgent GP referrals.
 
Heart surgeries delayed. Joint replacements delayed. Cataract removals delayed. Donor organs having to be rejected because there was no capacity allocated for ICU beds for post operative care for recipients. (Although there was plenty of capacity available) Numerous cases reported of people not having terminal illness diagnosed in time because they couldn't get a face to face appointment with their GP. Etc. Etc.
 
“Many people with cancer have had vital appointments, surgeries and treatments postponed, cancelled or changed. This has had a devastating impact.”
www.macmillan.org.uk/about-us/what-we-do/we-make-change-happen/we-shape-policy/covid-19-impact-cancer-report.html
 
“A record six million patients are on hospital waiting lists for non-urgent operations or procedures in England, as of November 2021. The need to suspend routine surgeries at times during the pandemic increased existing pressures on the health service.”
www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/six_million_patients_affected_by_delay_to_nhs_englands_plans_to_address_covid-19_backlog_1387369
 
Continuing COVID restrictions are already causing 'huge anxiety' and 'complicated concerns' already for vast numbers of people. How much do you want everyone else to suffer?  

So, who, precisely, is taking the selfi

(02-10-2022, 09:01 AM)Ted Maul Wrote: Lockdowns are quite a long way removed from simply asking people with a highly contagious respiratory illness to stop home for a few days if they get it.

Common sense should dictate you'd do this with any illness, but then again that's the problem with common sense.

If you're removing all restrictions and going 'full normal' then surely the final step is to stop reporting case numbers?

(02-10-2022, 09:07 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: This has nothing to do with common sense it’s a politically motivated decision by a Prime Minister who is more concerned with doing the budding of right winger on his back benches.

(02-10-2022, 09:09 AM)Ted Maul Wrote:

(02-10-2022, 09:07 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: This has nothing to do with common sense it’s a politically motivated decision by a Prime Minister who is more concerned with doing the budding of right winger on his back benches.

Well, quite. If you're lucky enough to have been eligible for a vaccine and are no longer required to shield you have been able to live a pretty normal life since last summer. Isolating when you're ill, with whatever illness shouldn't be law, it should just be the norm. I can't believe people don't do this anyway.

(02-10-2022, 09:07 AM)Derek Hardballs Wrote: This has nothing to do with common sense it’s a politically motivated decision by a Prime Minister who is more concerned with doing the bidding of right wingers on his back benches, abs why because whilst others tried to keep others safe, he allowed his own office and potentially home to be party central. Utterly contemptible given his position.