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Airbus - Fulham Fallout - 04-27-2020
Are struggling.
They’ll struggle even more when loads of 2nd hand planes hit the market.
RE: Airbus - baggiebloke - 04-27-2020
"Bleeding cash"
Will make cuts to avoid going Airbust.
RE: Airbus - Cheshire East Baggie - 04-27-2020
Once the dust settles on this pandemic, it will be interesting to see how travel, and air travel in particular, shapes up. There will be plenty of idle aircraft lying around, despite the 737 Max hold-ups. There will be demand but reduced capacity while the surviving airlines re-build their operations. So will air fares become as expensive as back in the 70s, or will we settle quickly back into the "price war" situation that has kept air travel ludicrously cheap in recent decades?
I don't see a future where people can't travel around. Air travel will get cleaner and more efficient. The pandemic may turn out to have delayed the development of more eco-friendly aircraft, even though it has caused a very welcome immediate reduction in pollution.
RE: Airbus - billybassett - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 07:12 AM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Once the dust settles on this pandemic, it will be interesting to see how travel, and air travel in particular, shapes up. There will be plenty of idle aircraft lying around, despite the 737 Max hold-ups. There will be demand but reduced capacity while the surviving airlines re-build their operations. So will air fares become as expensive as back in the 70s, or will we settle quickly back into the "price war" situation that has kept air travel ludicrously cheap in recent decades?
I don't see a future where people can't travel around. Air travel will get cleaner and more efficient. The pandemic may turn out to have delayed the development of more eco-friendly aircraft, even though it has caused a very welcome immediate reduction in pollution.
The sad irony in all this is that climate change has already killed tens of thousands and is predicated to kill millions. Some countries are being wiped away Myanmar, Bangladesh, Dominica, Micronesia etc. Not to mention a hundreds of plant and animal species being wiped out daily.
Our current UK policy on this is err... nothing
The global response to this is err...a target that nobody cares about
Covid though gets front page headlines because it's here and now. Trouble with climate change is once it really hits here and now it will be way too late.
But all those who voted for the current incompetents you keep banging the pots and pans and raising money for the new NHS charity that we now have, the railway nobody wants, the London only policy wheel and clearly no care for the future.
RE: Airbus - baggiebloke - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 09:05 AM)billybassett Wrote:(04-27-2020, 07:12 AM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Once the dust settles on this pandemic, it will be interesting to see how travel, and air travel in particular, shapes up. There will be plenty of idle aircraft lying around, despite the 737 Max hold-ups. There will be demand but reduced capacity while the surviving airlines re-build their operations. So will air fares become as expensive as back in the 70s, or will we settle quickly back into the "price war" situation that has kept air travel ludicrously cheap in recent decades?
I don't see a future where people can't travel around. Air travel will get cleaner and more efficient. The pandemic may turn out to have delayed the development of more eco-friendly aircraft, even though it has caused a very welcome immediate reduction in pollution.
The sad irony in all this is that climate change has already killed tens of thousands and is predicated to kill millions. Some countries are being wiped away Myanmar, Bangladesh, Dominica, Micronesia etc. Not to mention a hundreds of plant and animal species being wiped out daily.
Our current UK policy on this is err... nothing
The global response to this is err...a target that nobody cares about
Covid though gets front page headlines because it's here and now. Trouble with climate change is once it really hits here and now it will be way too late.
But all those who voted for the current incompetents you keep banging the pots and pans and raising money for the new NHS charity that we now have, the railway nobody wants, the London only policy wheel and clearly no care for the future.
I appreciate your comments but there's a politics bit for all this.
RE: Airbus - Fido - 04-27-2020
The trouble with industries such as these is that there are so many ancillary manufacturers and service providers that depend on these huge customers to survive. If they decide they're going to hang fire or stop building new machines it'll mean a lot of these other companies going pop too. One of the lads I run the kids' footie with has such as company and about 50% of their revenue comes from aerospace.
RE: Airbus - baggiebloke - 04-27-2020
One of my siblings works for R-R
Their revenue is decimated when planes don't fly, as there's no maintenance requirements. Or, very little now compared to normal.
RE: Airbus - Ministry Of Silly Signings - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 09:09 AM)baggiebloke Wrote:(04-27-2020, 09:05 AM)billybassett Wrote:(04-27-2020, 07:12 AM)Cheshire East Baggie Wrote: Once the dust settles on this pandemic, it will be interesting to see how travel, and air travel in particular, shapes up. There will be plenty of idle aircraft lying around, despite the 737 Max hold-ups. There will be demand but reduced capacity while the surviving airlines re-build their operations. So will air fares become as expensive as back in the 70s, or will we settle quickly back into the "price war" situation that has kept air travel ludicrously cheap in recent decades?
I don't see a future where people can't travel around. Air travel will get cleaner and more efficient. The pandemic may turn out to have delayed the development of more eco-friendly aircraft, even though it has caused a very welcome immediate reduction in pollution.
The sad irony in all this is that climate change has already killed tens of thousands and is predicated to kill millions. Some countries are being wiped away Myanmar, Bangladesh, Dominica, Micronesia etc. Not to mention a hundreds of plant and animal species being wiped out daily.
Our current UK policy on this is err... nothing
The global response to this is err...a target that nobody cares about
Covid though gets front page headlines because it's here and now. Trouble with climate change is once it really hits here and now it will be way too late.
But all those who voted for the current incompetents you keep banging the pots and pans and raising money for the new NHS charity that we now have, the railway nobody wants, the London only policy wheel and clearly no care for the future.
I appreciate your comments but there's a politics bit for all this.
Personally think this country does more than its share re climate change. Our carbon emissions have, I recently read, gone down by over 40% in the last 20 or so years. We now have only 1 or 2 coal power stations left, both due to close shortly. China / India still building them. Cars are stacks more efficient than even 20 years ago. Family hatchbacks that we thought were great for doing 40 to the gallon, now do 65 to the gallon. Aircraft now have vastly more economic turbofans, twin engine planes can now fly routes that gas guzzling Boeing 707`s with four engines did. Let the extinction rebellion loonies go and protest in China or Brazil etc, see how friendly police are there, before bringing London or wherever to a standstill.
RE: Airbus - Protheroe - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 09:05 AM)billybassett Wrote: The sad irony in all this is that climate change has already killed tens of thousands and is predicated to kill millions.
Where has "climate change" killed a single person? Anywhere?
RE: Airbus - Ossian - 04-27-2020
(04-27-2020, 11:41 AM)Protheroe Wrote:(04-27-2020, 09:05 AM)billybassett Wrote: The sad irony in all this is that climate change has already killed tens of thousands and is predicated to kill millions.
Where has "climate change" killed a single person? Anywhere?
There are species other than us on this planet.
Some of them we depend on for our survival.